1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,500 Hi, I am John Hayes from Carnegie Mellon University. 2 00:00:03,705 --> 00:00:11,238 Prof. Grabowski asked me to talk about what I anticipated 3 00:00:11,532 --> 00:00:20,099 when Linda Flower and I rolled out our model that is published in 1980. 4 00:00:21,219 --> 00:00:23,886 What did we think would happen? 5 00:00:24,631 --> 00:00:26,231 How will it be received? 6 00:00:26,484 --> 00:00:27,951 Would it be a big hit? 7 00:00:28,075 --> 00:00:31,542 Well, frankly, we really didn't know. 8 00:00:32,195 --> 00:00:34,662 We had no idea what was gonna happen. 9 00:00:35,031 --> 00:00:40,598 We liked the model, but would other people like the model? 10 00:00:40,875 --> 00:00:41,675 We didn't know. 11 00:00:41,830 --> 00:00:48,363 Would they think it was too abstract and sciency, or would they just be bored with it? 12 00:00:48,758 --> 00:00:50,291 Well, we couldn't tell. 13 00:00:50,902 --> 00:00:56,236 Part of the reason that we were in the dark, and really had to be in the dark, 14 00:00:56,802 --> 00:01:04,669 was that some of the fields, where the model has been popular, really didn't exist at the time. 15 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:11,459 I'm thinking about fields like second language learning and information design. 16 00:01:11,744 --> 00:01:17,544 I think that the reason that the model was popular, 17 00:01:17,985 --> 00:01:25,885 was because it provided a language, derived from cognitive science, 18 00:01:26,151 --> 00:01:38,751 that allowed people like teachers and researchers to think about writing in ways they hadn’t before. 19 00:01:39,041 --> 00:01:43,741 But the language was, indeed, straight out of cognitive psychology 20 00:01:44,095 --> 00:01:52,795 and we didn't know whether people who weren't cognitive psychologists would accept or be sensitive to such a language, 21 00:01:52,916 --> 00:02:03,016 the language of box and arrow models and proposers and translators other things that we wrote on. 22 00:02:03,632 --> 00:02:07,532 Fortunately, people did respond positively but we were quite uncertain whether that would occur. 23 00:02:08,819 --> 00:02:14,019 Now generally, we think it's really hard for scientists to predict 24 00:02:14,316 --> 00:02:17,516 what the outcome of their work is gonna be held by the public. 25 00:02:17,843 --> 00:02:20,043 That certainly was the case for me. 26 00:02:20,443 --> 00:02:28,543 Let me just give an example of that to illustrate some of the strange paths that researcher may take. 27 00:02:28,968 --> 00:02:35,368 I am gonna talk about, some research I did with other researchers on voice in writing. 28 00:02:35,673 --> 00:02:44,973 Often when we read a text, we get a feeling or an impression of the author or the author's personality. 29 00:02:45,108 --> 00:02:53,008 That is, whether they are warm or intelligent or condescending and my question really was: 30 00:02:53,351 --> 00:02:58,451 "Did other people get that same impression or does everybody have their own impression?" 31 00:02:58,777 --> 00:03:10,077 So, I put together a research team of myself and a couple of graduates, and asked the question this way. 32 00:03:10,667 --> 00:03:20,067 We tried to approach the question, by asking writing instructors, three different writing instructors, 33 00:03:20,369 --> 00:03:26,369 and we asked them to make personality judgments from students’ texts. 34 00:03:26,761 --> 00:03:32,761 And the texts were written by students who were applying to Carnegie Mellon. 35 00:03:33,146 --> 00:03:41,446 They were writing essays, personal essays that were intended to impress the university that these were really magnificent people. 36 00:03:41,715 --> 00:03:45,715 So we knew that they were serious and we knew what they were trying to do. 37 00:03:46,151 --> 00:03:55,451 And, so we asked the, when we looked at the results of the personality judgments, 38 00:03:55,786 --> 00:04:01,186 we found that there was very significant agreement among the judges, among the three writing instructors. 39 00:04:01,336 --> 00:04:05,036 But something strange happened in the results: 40 00:04:05,281 --> 00:04:10,281 some students wrote essays that were perceived as negative. 41 00:04:10,563 --> 00:04:16,063 The personality of the students came across as people you wouldn't like. 42 00:04:16,203 --> 00:04:23,003 And we wondered why in the world students would do that when they were trying to impress. 43 00:04:23,586 --> 00:04:34,786 So, what we found was, in a second study, in a follow up study, which we conducted with the same students, 44 00:04:35,188 --> 00:04:39,488 that is, the students who were applying and accepted at Carnegie Mellon university. 45 00:04:39,932 --> 00:04:44,332 We asked them to judge these same essays and we found that they loved them. 46 00:04:44,705 --> 00:04:54,505 So what was happening apparently was students were writing essays while they were in High School and they were writing to High School norms. 47 00:04:54,812 --> 00:05:01,112 They would do things like load the essays up with fancy words. 48 00:05:01,479 --> 00:05:08,579 And when students read these essays, they projected their personalities as intelligent and creative. 49 00:05:08,879 --> 00:05:14,079 But the writing instructors formed very different impression. 50 00:05:14,412 --> 00:05:24,612 Okay. We found that younger writers have trouble predicting how their texts will be perceived by older readers. 51 00:05:24,970 --> 00:05:29,870 So Karen Schriver and I did a follow up study in which we asked the reversed question: 52 00:05:30,048 --> 00:05:39,248 "Suppose you looked at adult writers who were writing to young readers, how would young readers respond to those texts?” 53 00:05:39,607 --> 00:05:49,007 So we had a domain in which adult writers wrote to young people: drug education literature. 54 00:05:49,724 --> 00:06:00,024 And what we did was to take drug education brochures written by adults, in general, and asked the question: 55 00:06:00,466 --> 00:06:03,466 "How did young students, young students, teenagers respond to them?" 56 00:06:03,855 --> 00:06:17,055 And to be engaging, the older writers, the adult writers, would use, what unfortunately was out of date slang in their writing. 57 00:06:17,364 --> 00:06:24,064 Students formed very negative impression. In fact they would say things like: 58 00:06:24,344 --> 00:06:26,444 "He thinks, he is cool. But he is not." 59 00:06:26,642 --> 00:06:27,242 or 60 00:06:27,402 --> 00:06:32,102 "This is a writer who is an old white guy who never gets out of his office." 61 00:06:32,410 --> 00:06:43,610 So, the point here is that, we hadn't, when we started this research, we had one question, that question lead to other questions, 62 00:06:43,777 --> 00:06:50,077 we didn't know where things were going. And that's not a surprise. 63 00:06:50,219 --> 00:06:57,619 So if you're a young student, if you're a beginning researcher and you are not sure where your research is going, 64 00:06:57,796 --> 00:07:00,096 that's the way it is.